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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/04/poles-backtrack-on-missile-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-3585</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that&#039;s as close as Jay Reding has ever come to admitting he was wrong, even though he is wrong multiple times every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that&#8217;s as close as Jay Reding has ever come to admitting he was wrong, even though he is wrong multiple times every day.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Reding</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/04/poles-backtrack-on-missile-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-3586</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Reding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note that Justin responded with a link that I could verify via two credible sources. Note how you continue to make arguments that are not only unsubstantiated but have already been proven incorrect. Note which technique is effective and academic, and which is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that Justin responded with a link that I could verify via two credible sources. Note how you continue to make arguments that are not only unsubstantiated but have already been proven incorrect. Note which technique is effective and academic, and which is not.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/04/poles-backtrack-on-missile-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-3587</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay,

Trolls don&#039;t have sources or facts.  They just engage in name calling, think themselves clever, and pat themselves on the back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay,</p>
<p>Trolls don&#8217;t have sources or facts.  They just engage in name calling, think themselves clever, and pat themselves on the back.</p>
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		<title>By: James M</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/04/poles-backtrack-on-missile-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-3588</link>
		<dc:creator>James M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And France surrenders... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And France surrenders&#8230; :-)</p>
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		<title>By: frankish</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/04/poles-backtrack-on-missile-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-3589</link>
		<dc:creator>frankish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Les chiens aboient,la caravane passe&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

Arab &amp; French saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><i>Les chiens aboient,la caravane passe</i></b></p>
<p>Arab &#038; French saying.</p>
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		<title>By: Emam</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/04/poles-backtrack-on-missile-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-3590</link>
		<dc:creator>Emam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read a discussion between some friends of mine and it was mentioned that an aquintance who is an officer in the marine corp has actually been to SAM sites and taken pictures of missles with obvious French markings and that there were crates and documents that indicated that 2002 as the ship date. My frind has seen the pictures, but I have not. So I cannot at this point confirm or deny that that report is true. I plan to attempt finding out of that claim is true. Because if there is damage control going on for France, I do believe people should be aware of what is really going on.

The person that brought this to my attention is a professional scientist and not someone who flys off the handle and cries conspiracy at the drop of a hat. So his credibility tells me the subject of France&#039;s possibly illegal actions is not yet closed and sealed.

Yeah, I know I didn&#039;t give a link to this conversation, but the conversation was private, if I do find out anything I will post it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read a discussion between some friends of mine and it was mentioned that an aquintance who is an officer in the marine corp has actually been to SAM sites and taken pictures of missles with obvious French markings and that there were crates and documents that indicated that 2002 as the ship date. My frind has seen the pictures, but I have not. So I cannot at this point confirm or deny that that report is true. I plan to attempt finding out of that claim is true. Because if there is damage control going on for France, I do believe people should be aware of what is really going on.</p>
<p>The person that brought this to my attention is a professional scientist and not someone who flys off the handle and cries conspiracy at the drop of a hat. So his credibility tells me the subject of France&#8217;s possibly illegal actions is not yet closed and sealed.</p>
<p>Yeah, I know I didn&#8217;t give a link to this conversation, but the conversation was private, if I do find out anything I will post it.</p>
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		<title>By: vincent</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/04/poles-backtrack-on-missile-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-3591</link>
		<dc:creator>vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my grandmother told me that bin Laden and Georges W Bush were the same person. this conversation was private. If I do find anything more vague and infamous, I&#039;ll post it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my grandmother told me that bin Laden and Georges W Bush were the same person. this conversation was private. If I do find anything more vague and infamous, I&#8217;ll post it!</p>
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		<title>By: frankish</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/04/poles-backtrack-on-missile-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-3592</link>
		<dc:creator>frankish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Vincent. George Ben Laden and Oussama Ben Bush are actually two different persons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Vincent. George Ben Laden and Oussama Ben Bush are actually two different persons.</p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/04/poles-backtrack-on-missile-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-3593</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.arabnews.com/?page=7&amp;section=0&amp;article=33181&amp;d=7&amp;m=10&amp;y=2003

I have an article for the Laurel and Hardy of the Blogoshere.

Now, back to the subject, I simply listed another in a long list of reports from our servicemen and women that conflict with media reports. Just like the negative reports on what is happening in Iraq on reconstruction efforts, this also contradicts what the media reports.

It deserves to be checked out, not dismissed. Which I have already written to the people invovled and asked for confirmation. If they send confirmation then it changes from he said, she said to something more. If I do not recieve confirmation then it goes into the rumor barrel.

Now what has the Laurel and Hardy team done today to other than make jokes? Have you attempted to confirm or disprove any reports? Or for some reason out of the wide blue should just YOUR word be enough? I didn&#039;t think so.

Running down &quot;the rest of the story&quot; that the media ignores is what the Blogoshere is good at. So is this the rest of the story or just a rumor? Until it is checked out who knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.arabnews.com/?page=7&#038;section=0&#038;article=33181&#038;d=7&#038;m=10&#038;y=2003" rel="nofollow">http://www.arabnews.com/?page=7&#038;section=0&#038;article=33181&#038;d=7&#038;m=10&#038;y=2003</a></p>
<p>I have an article for the Laurel and Hardy of the Blogoshere.</p>
<p>Now, back to the subject, I simply listed another in a long list of reports from our servicemen and women that conflict with media reports. Just like the negative reports on what is happening in Iraq on reconstruction efforts, this also contradicts what the media reports.</p>
<p>It deserves to be checked out, not dismissed. Which I have already written to the people invovled and asked for confirmation. If they send confirmation then it changes from he said, she said to something more. If I do not recieve confirmation then it goes into the rumor barrel.</p>
<p>Now what has the Laurel and Hardy team done today to other than make jokes? Have you attempted to confirm or disprove any reports? Or for some reason out of the wide blue should just YOUR word be enough? I didn&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>Running down &#8220;the rest of the story&#8221; that the media ignores is what the Blogoshere is good at. So is this the rest of the story or just a rumor? Until it is checked out who knows.</p>
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		<title>By: vincent</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/04/poles-backtrack-on-missile-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-3594</link>
		<dc:creator>vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so please Emma, until it is checked out: shut up!
Don&#039;t you know that there&#039;s always someone to take rumors as facts, and not read the truth a few weeks later.
This fact that &quot;France sold missiles to Irak in 2002&quot; is nothing more than propaganda. So please, if you have no evidence, just don&#039;t say it. Unless you admit you just want to hurt the reputation of France, whatever the means you&#039;re willing to use, but this is another story...

and one last thing: I may be laurel or hardy, or any kind of dumb guy, but your link is broken
;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so please Emma, until it is checked out: shut up!<br />
Don&#8217;t you know that there&#8217;s always someone to take rumors as facts, and not read the truth a few weeks later.<br />
This fact that &#8220;France sold missiles to Irak in 2002&#8243; is nothing more than propaganda. So please, if you have no evidence, just don&#8217;t say it. Unless you admit you just want to hurt the reputation of France, whatever the means you&#8217;re willing to use, but this is another story&#8230;</p>
<p>and one last thing: I may be laurel or hardy, or any kind of dumb guy, but your link is broken<br />
;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/04/poles-backtrack-on-missile-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-3595</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vincent...I have no reason to doubt the people  behind this story (A marine and a chemist)...So as far as I am concerned it is true until proven false. I just feel that to be fair I should also attempt to confirm it from another source. So I am waiting for pictures.

We&#039;ve been hearing similar reports from several returning military sources about what has been found in Iraq that is never reported in the media. I&#039;d say first hand witnesses are pretty solid, and if they thought to take photographs.....maybe the media needs a wake up call and to get out of their air conditioned hotel rooms in Baghdad to track this stuff down.

So as far as France is concerned, France&#039;s behavior will speak for it&#039;self. As far as I&#039;ve seen, France is the only one responsible for the state of it&#039;s reputation.

as far as the link? maybe I&#039;ll repost it another time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vincent&#8230;I have no reason to doubt the people  behind this story (A marine and a chemist)&#8230;So as far as I am concerned it is true until proven false. I just feel that to be fair I should also attempt to confirm it from another source. So I am waiting for pictures.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been hearing similar reports from several returning military sources about what has been found in Iraq that is never reported in the media. I&#8217;d say first hand witnesses are pretty solid, and if they thought to take photographs&#8230;..maybe the media needs a wake up call and to get out of their air conditioned hotel rooms in Baghdad to track this stuff down.</p>
<p>So as far as France is concerned, France&#8217;s behavior will speak for it&#8217;self. As far as I&#8217;ve seen, France is the only one responsible for the state of it&#8217;s reputation.</p>
<p>as far as the link? maybe I&#8217;ll repost it another time.</p>
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		<title>By: vincent</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/04/poles-backtrack-on-missile-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-3596</link>
		<dc:creator>vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>too bad you can read, but not understand what it means:
I wrote:
&quot;So please, if you have no evidence, just don&#039;t say it. Unless you admit you just want to hurt the reputation of France&quot;

You answered:
&quot;it is true until proven false&quot; and
&quot;As far as I&#039;ve seen, France is the only one responsible for the state of it&#039;s reputation.&quot;

According to universal democratic standards, every individual (but nations as well) is innocent until proven guilty. Thus, any word demolishing a reputation grounded on un-proven facts is just propaganda. I assume you just don&#039;t care about being democratic or not. Good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>too bad you can read, but not understand what it means:<br />
I wrote:<br />
&#8220;So please, if you have no evidence, just don&#8217;t say it. Unless you admit you just want to hurt the reputation of France&#8221;</p>
<p>You answered:<br />
&#8220;it is true until proven false&#8221; and<br />
&#8220;As far as I&#8217;ve seen, France is the only one responsible for the state of it&#8217;s reputation.&#8221;</p>
<p>According to universal democratic standards, every individual (but nations as well) is innocent until proven guilty. Thus, any word demolishing a reputation grounded on un-proven facts is just propaganda. I assume you just don&#8217;t care about being democratic or not. Good.</p>
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		<title>By: banjocat</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/04/poles-backtrack-on-missile-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-3597</link>
		<dc:creator>banjocat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poland&#039;s Embassy in Washington confirms that the initial report was in error.

http://www.polandembassy.org/News/p3-1.htm


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poland&#8217;s Embassy in Washington confirms that the initial report was in error.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polandembassy.org/News/p3-1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.polandembassy.org/News/p3-1.htm</a></p>
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