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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/27/south-park-republicans-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-264645</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 21:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>South Park Republican was a &quot;cute&quot; term for a few years. Today, it&#039;s turned itself inside-out and upside-down.  It&#039;s certainly no where near reality in todays spending spree GOP hard right atmosphere.  I *wish* it was still a valid term, because I could relate on many levels, but it&#039;s just short on focus and long on rhetoric at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>South Park Republican was a &#8220;cute&#8221; term for a few years. Today, it&#8217;s turned itself inside-out and upside-down.  It&#8217;s certainly no where near reality in todays spending spree GOP hard right atmosphere.  I *wish* it was still a valid term, because I could relate on many levels, but it&#8217;s just short on focus and long on rhetoric at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/27/south-park-republicans-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-189471</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 18:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>South Park Republican? Just a lame word used to associate libertarians with Republican douchebags</description>
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		<title>By: zuzu</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/27/south-park-republicans-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-159446</link>
		<dc:creator>zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Three years ago, America had just completed its longest stretch of prosperity in its history, and to show for it, an record LOW savings rate of negative 2%.

Blame the Federal Reserve, the central banking system, and crypto-Keynesians such as Bernake who think that *inflation* somehow creates wealth rather than the obvious: diluting the value of money (i.e. people&#039;s savings, aka &quot;stealth tax&quot;).

The Fed sets interest rates by (blind) mandate, as opposed to the natural interest rate of distributed time-preference.  To encourage aimless spending (aka &quot;misinvestment&quot;), they set the interest rate as low as they can get away with.  As a result, the interest banks can afford to pay people for their *savings* is extremely minimal.  Whereas the return on investment for banks using fractional reserve for extremely low interest loans is very high.  The result?  An entire national economy based on deficit finance!!!

The *opportunity cost* unfolds like this:  Why should you save money with virtually *no* return on investment from the bank, when you could spend that same money on something (anything!) else which would yield a greater return.  

As a result of inflation, you are in fact bringing home more dollars, but it&#039;s a Red Queens Race against the larger doom of hyperinflation.  You&#039;re working twice as hard to hold on to *less* wealth than you began with.

-z

p.s. Cheers for mentioning Hayek&#039;s Road to Serfdom!  I&#039;d also recommend his Use of Knowledge in Society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Three years ago, America had just completed its longest stretch of prosperity in its history, and to show for it, an record LOW savings rate of negative 2%.</p>
<p>Blame the Federal Reserve, the central banking system, and crypto-Keynesians such as Bernake who think that *inflation* somehow creates wealth rather than the obvious: diluting the value of money (i.e. people&#8217;s savings, aka &#8220;stealth tax&#8221;).</p>
<p>The Fed sets interest rates by (blind) mandate, as opposed to the natural interest rate of distributed time-preference.  To encourage aimless spending (aka &#8220;misinvestment&#8221;), they set the interest rate as low as they can get away with.  As a result, the interest banks can afford to pay people for their *savings* is extremely minimal.  Whereas the return on investment for banks using fractional reserve for extremely low interest loans is very high.  The result?  An entire national economy based on deficit finance!!!</p>
<p>The *opportunity cost* unfolds like this:  Why should you save money with virtually *no* return on investment from the bank, when you could spend that same money on something (anything!) else which would yield a greater return.  </p>
<p>As a result of inflation, you are in fact bringing home more dollars, but it&#8217;s a Red Queens Race against the larger doom of hyperinflation.  You&#8217;re working twice as hard to hold on to *less* wealth than you began with.</p>
<p>-z</p>
<p>p.s. Cheers for mentioning Hayek&#8217;s Road to Serfdom!  I&#8217;d also recommend his Use of Knowledge in Society.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose Mierda</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/27/south-park-republicans-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-144929</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose Mierda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2005 04:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt;As much as the GOP pretends to bow at the idols of the frugal and ingenius “individuals”, they know what the score is….otherwise they wouldn’t be aiding and abetting credit card companies to pass legislation that makes it easier to entrap foolish-spending consumers, and then scorch them with the bill after they’ve driven into bankruptcy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;As much as the GOP pretends to bow at the idols of the frugal and ingenius “individuals”, they know what the score is….otherwise they wouldn’t be aiding and abetting credit card companies to pass legislation that makes it easier to entrap foolish-spending consumers, and then scorch them with the bill after they’ve driven into bankruptcy.</p>
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		<title>By: ryusen</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/27/south-park-republicans-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-105555</link>
		<dc:creator>ryusen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the topic of being a south park republican and supporting Bush, honestly... i don&#039;t really consider Bush to be a republican.  I learned in school that republicans are abotu fiscal responsibility, personal freedom and accountability.  Just because the man is bribed by the same people, doesn&#039;t mean he&#039;s really a republican.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the topic of being a south park republican and supporting Bush, honestly&#8230; i don&#8217;t really consider Bush to be a republican.  I learned in school that republicans are abotu fiscal responsibility, personal freedom and accountability.  Just because the man is bribed by the same people, doesn&#8217;t mean he&#8217;s really a republican.</p>
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		<title>By: JR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, because I&#039;m an 18-30 year-old who&#039;s sick of being lied to and doesn&#039;t like people in power using their positions to regulate my morality--so OF COURSE I&#039;ll be backing Bush.  Right, and the Pope&#039;s actually Methodist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, because I&#8217;m an 18-30 year-old who&#8217;s sick of being lied to and doesn&#8217;t like people in power using their positions to regulate my morality&#8211;so OF COURSE I&#8217;ll be backing Bush.  Right, and the Pope&#8217;s actually Methodist.</p>
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		<title>By: Chet</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/27/south-park-republicans-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-3907</link>
		<dc:creator>Chet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny, because it&#039;s obvious to the most causal observers that the &lt;i&gt;South Park&lt;/i&gt; guys are liberal in the truest sense of the word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny, because it&#8217;s obvious to the most causal observers that the <i>South Park</i> guys are liberal in the truest sense of the word.</p>
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		<title>By: Chet</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/27/south-park-republicans-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-3908</link>
		<dc:creator>Chet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean, seriously - how welcoming is the conservative movement going to be to a crop of young people who drink, smoke, have premarital sex, are tolerant of homosexuality, support gay marriage, the relaxation of the war on drugs, and the right of women to make their own reproductive decisions?

If these people think they&#039;re going to find a warm reception by older conservatives, they&#039;re in for a big surprise. You can call them &lt;i&gt;South Park&lt;/i&gt; Republicans, but they&#039;re just one disapproving conservative glare from being South Park Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean, seriously &#8211; how welcoming is the conservative movement going to be to a crop of young people who drink, smoke, have premarital sex, are tolerant of homosexuality, support gay marriage, the relaxation of the war on drugs, and the right of women to make their own reproductive decisions?</p>
<p>If these people think they&#8217;re going to find a warm reception by older conservatives, they&#8217;re in for a big surprise. You can call them <i>South Park</i> Republicans, but they&#8217;re just one disapproving conservative glare from being South Park Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Reding</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Reding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I mean, seriously - how welcoming is the conservative movement going to be to a crop of young people who drink, smoke, have premarital sex, are tolerant of homosexuality, support gay marriage, the relaxation of the war on drugs, and the right of women to make their own reproductive decisions?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Very much so, as I know from personal experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I mean, seriously &#8211; how welcoming is the conservative movement going to be to a crop of young people who drink, smoke, have premarital sex, are tolerant of homosexuality, support gay marriage, the relaxation of the war on drugs, and the right of women to make their own reproductive decisions?</p></blockquote>
<p>Very much so, as I know from personal experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Chet</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/27/south-park-republicans-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-3910</link>
		<dc:creator>Chet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s true, Jay. They did support Arnold, after all. So, if the conservatives are liberal, and the liberals are liberal, then what the hell are we arguing about all the time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s true, Jay. They did support Arnold, after all. So, if the conservatives are liberal, and the liberals are liberal, then what the hell are we arguing about all the time?</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Reding</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/27/south-park-republicans-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-3911</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Reding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because &quot;conservatives&quot; are &quot;liberals&quot;, &quot;liberals&quot; are &quot;statists&quot;, and I am the Walrus coo coo ka choo.

Actually, you could also argue that both conservatism in America (but not necessarily elsewhere) and liberalism are descendents of the classical liberal tradition. Indeed, America has never had a tradition of either socialism or fascism as Europe has, for reasons that I&#039;ll go into later...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because &#8220;conservatives&#8221; are &#8220;liberals&#8221;, &#8220;liberals&#8221; are &#8220;statists&#8221;, and I am the Walrus coo coo ka choo.</p>
<p>Actually, you could also argue that both conservatism in America (but not necessarily elsewhere) and liberalism are descendents of the classical liberal tradition. Indeed, America has never had a tradition of either socialism or fascism as Europe has, for reasons that I&#8217;ll go into later&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Reding</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/27/south-park-republicans-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-3913</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Reding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark:

If you wish to have your own personal forum, get your own blog. These kind of &lt;i&gt;ad hominem&lt;/i&gt; rants will not be tolerated here. You know nothing of my background yet you think you have the right to denigrate me as well as an entire group of people because they don&#039;t agree with your narrow ideology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark:</p>
<p>If you wish to have your own personal forum, get your own blog. These kind of <i>ad hominem</i> rants will not be tolerated here. You know nothing of my background yet you think you have the right to denigrate me as well as an entire group of people because they don&#8217;t agree with your narrow ideology.</p>
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		<title>By: Chet</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/27/south-park-republicans-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-3914</link>
		<dc:creator>Chet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, if conservatives are liberals, why are they supporting Bush, whose policies are statist?

No wonder I hate politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, if conservatives are liberals, why are they supporting Bush, whose policies are statist?</p>
<p>No wonder I hate politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Reding</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/27/south-park-republicans-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-3915</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Reding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So, if conservatives are liberals, why are they supporting Bush, whose policies are statist?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s a matter of degree. There&#039;s no such thing as pefect ideological consistancy, nor would you really want such a thing. Bush has engaged in some statist policies, like steel tariffs, but he&#039;s not committed to an agenda that would have the government virtually taking control of large sectors of the economy. Read Hayek&#039;s &lt;i&gt;The Road To Serfdom&lt;/i&gt; for more of this principle in action.

All things being equal, I&#039;d rather have the Republicans which is a party of limited government that occasionally doesn&#039;t hold to that ideal in power than the Democrats, the party of stifling government that is virtually guaranteed to erode economic and political rights in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So, if conservatives are liberals, why are they supporting Bush, whose policies are statist?</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s a matter of degree. There&#8217;s no such thing as pefect ideological consistancy, nor would you really want such a thing. Bush has engaged in some statist policies, like steel tariffs, but he&#8217;s not committed to an agenda that would have the government virtually taking control of large sectors of the economy. Read Hayek&#8217;s <i>The Road To Serfdom</i> for more of this principle in action.</p>
<p>All things being equal, I&#8217;d rather have the Republicans which is a party of limited government that occasionally doesn&#8217;t hold to that ideal in power than the Democrats, the party of stifling government that is virtually guaranteed to erode economic and political rights in this country.</p>
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		<title>By: Chet</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/27/south-park-republicans-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-3917</link>
		<dc:creator>Chet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put, Nick. I would add to your list Bush&#039;s open attack on freedom of information and transparency of government. No act is more statist than the suppression of information, particularly that which could support dissent. The White House web page is carefully revising old statements about Iraq to remove discrepancies between what Bush said would happen and what has happened. His Secret Service rounds up protesters and moves them to fenced-off &quot;Free Speech Areas&quot;. The IRS regularly audits groups that promote policies contrary to his, but gives faith-based groups a free pass.

His attacks on dissent in this country are deplorable. It boggles my mind that conservatives are still rallying to this guy, and yet indicting Democrats for being &quot;statist&quot; from the other side of their mouths. I guess as long as they don&#039;t have to vote for a Democrat, though, they&#039;ll be happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put, Nick. I would add to your list Bush&#8217;s open attack on freedom of information and transparency of government. No act is more statist than the suppression of information, particularly that which could support dissent. The White House web page is carefully revising old statements about Iraq to remove discrepancies between what Bush said would happen and what has happened. His Secret Service rounds up protesters and moves them to fenced-off &#8220;Free Speech Areas&#8221;. The IRS regularly audits groups that promote policies contrary to his, but gives faith-based groups a free pass.</p>
<p>His attacks on dissent in this country are deplorable. It boggles my mind that conservatives are still rallying to this guy, and yet indicting Democrats for being &#8220;statist&#8221; from the other side of their mouths. I guess as long as they don&#8217;t have to vote for a Democrat, though, they&#8217;ll be happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Reding</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/27/south-park-republicans-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-3918</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Reding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bush Administration has done no such thing to the White House web site. They&#039;ve changed the robots.txt file to limit the number of hits for the search term Iraq, but there&#039;s a good reason for doing this - it&#039;s designed to make searches more effective.

Pulling the current robots.txt from the White House server comes up with a series of entries like these:

    Disallow: /kids/spotty/iraq
    Disallow: /kids/eggroll/iraq
    Disallow: /kids/barney/iraq
    Disallow: /easter/iraq
    Disallow: /mrscheney/iraq
    Disallow: /national-anthem/iraq

So, unless there&#039;s some secret scheme to deny access to information about Barney the dog being an Iraqi secret agent, I doubt there&#039;s any real conspiracy here.

The reason why you&#039;d do this is to make searches more effective by ensuring that you weren&#039;t getting spurious links. The White House webmaster probably did something like this:

find . -type d&#124;perl -e &#039;while(&gt;){print &quot;${_}/iraq\n&quot;; print &quot;${_}/text\n&quot;;}&#039; &gt; robots.txt

Furthermore, there&#039;s nothing on the White House web site that&#039;s actually been moved. You could theoretically create a web crawler that ignores the robots.txt entry and searches the entire site and get all the same data you would had the changes not been made. (You&#039;d be violating several RFCs by doing this, but there&#039;s nothing stopping you from doing so anyway.)

As for your other conspiracy tales, care to cite a single reputable source that says that the White House is altering statements on Iraq (which would be pointless as that information is cached at archive.org and elsewhere anyway). Exactly what groups are being audited?

If you don&#039;t have the facts, then don&#039;t make the accusations.

Furthermore, there&#039;s nothing wrong with confining demonstrations to areas away from where the President is staying. Considering that we&#039;re in the midst of the war on terrorism, exactly how smart would it be to allow somoene who could very well be carrying a bomb within blast range of the President? The protestors still have the right to speak, they just don&#039;t have the right to do so in an area that would put them in assassination range of the President.

Furthermore, the Democrats did the very same thing all during the Clinton Administration and during the 2000 convention in Los Angeles without hardly a word being raised about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bush Administration has done no such thing to the White House web site. They&#8217;ve changed the robots.txt file to limit the number of hits for the search term Iraq, but there&#8217;s a good reason for doing this &#8211; it&#8217;s designed to make searches more effective.</p>
<p>Pulling the current robots.txt from the White House server comes up with a series of entries like these:</p>
<p>    Disallow: /kids/spotty/iraq<br />
    Disallow: /kids/eggroll/iraq<br />
    Disallow: /kids/barney/iraq<br />
    Disallow: /easter/iraq<br />
    Disallow: /mrscheney/iraq<br />
    Disallow: /national-anthem/iraq</p>
<p>So, unless there&#8217;s some secret scheme to deny access to information about Barney the dog being an Iraqi secret agent, I doubt there&#8217;s any real conspiracy here.</p>
<p>The reason why you&#8217;d do this is to make searches more effective by ensuring that you weren&#8217;t getting spurious links. The White House webmaster probably did something like this:</p>
<p>find . -type d|perl -e &#8216;while(>){print &#8220;${_}/iraq\n&#8221;; print &#8220;${_}/text\n&#8221;;}&#8217; > robots.txt</p>
<p>Furthermore, there&#8217;s nothing on the White House web site that&#8217;s actually been moved. You could theoretically create a web crawler that ignores the robots.txt entry and searches the entire site and get all the same data you would had the changes not been made. (You&#8217;d be violating several RFCs by doing this, but there&#8217;s nothing stopping you from doing so anyway.)</p>
<p>As for your other conspiracy tales, care to cite a single reputable source that says that the White House is altering statements on Iraq (which would be pointless as that information is cached at archive.org and elsewhere anyway). Exactly what groups are being audited?</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t have the facts, then don&#8217;t make the accusations.</p>
<p>Furthermore, there&#8217;s nothing wrong with confining demonstrations to areas away from where the President is staying. Considering that we&#8217;re in the midst of the war on terrorism, exactly how smart would it be to allow somoene who could very well be carrying a bomb within blast range of the President? The protestors still have the right to speak, they just don&#8217;t have the right to do so in an area that would put them in assassination range of the President.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the Democrats did the very same thing all during the Clinton Administration and during the 2000 convention in Los Angeles without hardly a word being raised about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Reding</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Reding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been one of those &quot;pro-Bush&quot; demonstrators, so I know the drill for getting into that rally.  Usually those people are party activists whose names are given to the Secret Service and given a background check by the advance team. You&#039;re screened at the door including checks with metal detectors and bomb-sniffing dogs. All of this was in place before September 11 - I&#039;m sure they&#039;re even more stringent since. (And yes, Clinton did the same thing - in fact, most politicians give similar offers to their supporters.)

As for the &quot;revisionism&quot; of the White House web site... &lt;b&gt;IT&#039;S ONE BLOODY WORD&lt;/b&gt;! Furthermore, the original headline was misleading as Bush specifically said in the speech on the &lt;i&gt;Lincoln&lt;/i&gt; he was talking about the end of &quot;major combat operations&quot; and not the end of the war. (The original speech &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/05/iraq/20030501-15.html&quot;&gt;is available here&lt;/a&gt; - and no it&#039;s not been edited in any way...)

&lt;p&gt;And considering that the media goes to the anti-Bush protestors like moths to a flame, if the goal is to somehow keep the protestors out of the media they&#039;re sure doing a piss-poor job of it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Again, it&#039;s clear that the rabid anti-Bush crowd is too busy making mountains out of molehills to lead the country. Considering we&#039;re in the middle of a major war these kind of childish partisan games are simply beyond the pale.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been one of those &#8220;pro-Bush&#8221; demonstrators, so I know the drill for getting into that rally.  Usually those people are party activists whose names are given to the Secret Service and given a background check by the advance team. You&#8217;re screened at the door including checks with metal detectors and bomb-sniffing dogs. All of this was in place before September 11 &#8211; I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;re even more stringent since. (And yes, Clinton did the same thing &#8211; in fact, most politicians give similar offers to their supporters.)</p>
<p>As for the &#8220;revisionism&#8221; of the White House web site&#8230; <b>IT&#8217;S ONE BLOODY WORD</b>! Furthermore, the original headline was misleading as Bush specifically said in the speech on the <i>Lincoln</i> he was talking about the end of &#8220;major combat operations&#8221; and not the end of the war. (The original speech <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/05/iraq/20030501-15.html">is available here</a> &#8211; and no it&#8217;s not been edited in any way&#8230;)</p>
<p>And considering that the media goes to the anti-Bush protestors like moths to a flame, if the goal is to somehow keep the protestors out of the media they&#8217;re sure doing a piss-poor job of it.</p>
<p>Again, it&#8217;s clear that the rabid anti-Bush crowd is too busy making mountains out of molehills to lead the country. Considering we&#8217;re in the middle of a major war these kind of childish partisan games are simply beyond the pale.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/27/south-park-republicans-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-3921</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea of the South Park Republican has been around for quite a while; P.J. O&#039;Rourke described &quot;Republican Party Reptiles&quot; in the book of the same name years ago.  This concept must be terrifying to the liberal world - people who like to have a good time can actually vote Republican and mean it?  Believe it or not, Ted Kennedy, there are millions of us out here whose laissez-faire attitude towards others&#039; personal lives actually extends into our voting habits.  I don&#039;t know why this should come as a shock - that &quot;Take your laws off my body&quot; comes from the same place in the brain as &quot;Take your IRS off my paycheck&quot; - but it baffles those on the left.  They don&#039;t understand that the government is either all up in your business or it is not - abuse of government power is exercised against my bank account FAR more often than against my right to express myself.  Despite their rantings about freedom, liberals more than anyone else implore you to pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea of the South Park Republican has been around for quite a while; P.J. O&#8217;Rourke described &#8220;Republican Party Reptiles&#8221; in the book of the same name years ago.  This concept must be terrifying to the liberal world &#8211; people who like to have a good time can actually vote Republican and mean it?  Believe it or not, Ted Kennedy, there are millions of us out here whose laissez-faire attitude towards others&#8217; personal lives actually extends into our voting habits.  I don&#8217;t know why this should come as a shock &#8211; that &#8220;Take your laws off my body&#8221; comes from the same place in the brain as &#8220;Take your IRS off my paycheck&#8221; &#8211; but it baffles those on the left.  They don&#8217;t understand that the government is either all up in your business or it is not &#8211; abuse of government power is exercised against my bank account FAR more often than against my right to express myself.  Despite their rantings about freedom, liberals more than anyone else implore you to pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.</p>
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		<title>By: Chet</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/27/south-park-republicans-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-3922</link>
		<dc:creator>Chet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Joe. Liberals have done far more for your paycheck than conservatives ever have. I assume you like the 40-hour workweek and the ability to earn overtime? Thank a liberal.

On the other hand... do you drive to work? Do the police protect your house? Did you go to public school? Do public utilities and infrastructure provide your heat, electricity, and water? I thought so. Is it really so unreasonable, therefore, to ask you to pay for those things? Surely &quot;paying for what you use&quot; is as reasonable as &quot;take the IRS off my paycheck&quot;? Since I&#039;m sure you would spare no effort to excoriate welfare freeloaders, there&#039;s no way you would freeload off of public services and infrastructures without paying your fair share of taxes, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Joe. Liberals have done far more for your paycheck than conservatives ever have. I assume you like the 40-hour workweek and the ability to earn overtime? Thank a liberal.</p>
<p>On the other hand&#8230; do you drive to work? Do the police protect your house? Did you go to public school? Do public utilities and infrastructure provide your heat, electricity, and water? I thought so. Is it really so unreasonable, therefore, to ask you to pay for those things? Surely &#8220;paying for what you use&#8221; is as reasonable as &#8220;take the IRS off my paycheck&#8221;? Since I&#8217;m sure you would spare no effort to excoriate welfare freeloaders, there&#8217;s no way you would freeload off of public services and infrastructures without paying your fair share of taxes, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Reding</title>
		<link>http://jayreding.com/archives/2003/10/27/south-park-republicans-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-3923</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Reding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be all fine and good if all federal spending went to public infrastructure - but very little of it does. In fact, your argument is the perfect example of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/straw.htm&quot;&gt;a straw man fallacy&lt;/a&gt;. No conservative argues that people should pay &lt;b&gt;no&lt;/b&gt; taxes, they argue that they should pay &lt;b&gt;less&lt;/b&gt; taxes. There&#039;s nothing greedy or untoward about demanding accountability.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I assume you like the 40-hour workweek and the ability to earn overtime? Thank a liberal.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Like the fact that even though your employees want to work more than 40 hours a week but can&#039;t because you can&#039;t afford to pay them despite the fact that they need the money? Thank a liberal. If you like the idea you&#039;re just to stupid to manage your own life and need the paternalistic hand of government to make your choices for you? Then you don&#039;t need to thank a liberal - you &lt;b&gt;are&lt;/b&gt; a liberal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be all fine and good if all federal spending went to public infrastructure &#8211; but very little of it does. In fact, your argument is the perfect example of <a href="http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/straw.htm">a straw man fallacy</a>. No conservative argues that people should pay <b>no</b> taxes, they argue that they should pay <b>less</b> taxes. There&#8217;s nothing greedy or untoward about demanding accountability.</p>
<blockquote><p>I assume you like the 40-hour workweek and the ability to earn overtime? Thank a liberal.</p></blockquote>
<p>Like the fact that even though your employees want to work more than 40 hours a week but can&#8217;t because you can&#8217;t afford to pay them despite the fact that they need the money? Thank a liberal. If you like the idea you&#8217;re just to stupid to manage your own life and need the paternalistic hand of government to make your choices for you? Then you don&#8217;t need to thank a liberal &#8211; you <b>are</b> a liberal.</p>
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