Comments on: A Profound Ignorance http://jayreding.com/archives/2004/10/11/a-profound-ignorance/ Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:46:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Gary http://jayreding.com/archives/2004/10/11/a-profound-ignorance/comment-page-1/#comment-9433 Gary Fri, 15 Oct 2004 05:13:02 +0000 http://63.247.137.2/~jayredin/?p=3631#comment-9433 Yeah, if Republicans were really serious about disarming terrorists, they would have gone after Saudi Arabia or Pakistan, two of the biggest financiers of terrorism. But these nations have chosen to please both sides of the war. The ruling royal family of Saudi Arabia has close ties with the Bush administration, and the friendly exchange of money and oil is all the current US admin requires; and yet, the Saudis have financed thousands of al-qaeda militants. Same with Pakistan - Musharraf has agreed to fight terrorism, and yet he harbors some of the most venemous, belligerent militants of al-qaeda, possibly including bin Laden himself. And yet, the Republicans choose to ignore these realities (and others, Iran, N. Korea) and stubbornly support the war in Iraq. They say that Kerry is stuck in the pre-9/11 mindset; Mr Reding's response above is typical of all Republicans mindset: bash the Democratic stance without any convincing argument and substance of their own. Kerry realizes where the real wars must be fought, that fighting terrorism is a global war, and thus requires a global effort, not more and more and more troops in a single crumbling nation. Yeah, if Republicans were really serious about disarming terrorists, they would have gone after Saudi Arabia or Pakistan, two of the biggest financiers of terrorism. But these nations have chosen to please both sides of the war. The ruling royal family of Saudi Arabia has close ties with the Bush administration, and the friendly exchange of money and oil is all the current US admin requires; and yet, the Saudis have financed thousands of al-qaeda militants.

Same with Pakistan – Musharraf has agreed to fight terrorism, and yet he harbors some of the most venemous, belligerent militants of al-qaeda, possibly including bin Laden himself.

And yet, the Republicans choose to ignore these realities (and others, Iran, N. Korea) and stubbornly support the war in Iraq. They say that Kerry is stuck in the pre-9/11 mindset; Mr Reding’s response above is typical of all Republicans mindset: bash the Democratic stance without any convincing argument and substance of their own.

Kerry realizes where the real wars must be fought, that fighting terrorism is a global war, and thus requires a global effort, not more and more and more troops in a single crumbling nation.

]]> By: vincent http://jayreding.com/archives/2004/10/11/a-profound-ignorance/comment-page-1/#comment-9398 vincent Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:03:20 +0000 http://63.247.137.2/~jayredin/?p=3631#comment-9398 Declare that the "global war on terror" is on seems to me like creating a fantomatic ennemy. Once again, Jay would tell you that we are at war, and that we must fight for democracy. For the moment, all I've seen is a mafia war between two petroleum-related familly with decade-long politic ties to their nation's highest representation. The fact that 9/11 occured DURING the yearly general assembly of the Carlyle Group is not a coincidence: that is the very reason of 9/11: Ossama didn't accepted that his familly deals with Americans, and he wanted the whole world to know about it. Now Bush tries to get his population to support his mafia. He creates ennemies, connections, WMDs, or whatever can get the support of the population. Everything turns out to be wrong after a while, but now the country is sold to friendly companies and controlled by the US army, so who's gonna come to complain? This war is not about values other than the value of money, and not about freedom other than freedom to enslave others for the benefit of Bush's lignée. To answer yous last question: "Did George make that one up too? ", the answer is no. His father did by funding the moudjaihdins against the soviets in the 70s and 80s. This is just a familly business. Declare that the “global war on terror” is on seems to me like creating a fantomatic ennemy. Once again, Jay would tell you that we are at war, and that we must fight for democracy.

For the moment, all I’ve seen is a mafia war between two petroleum-related familly with decade-long politic ties to their nation’s highest representation. The fact that 9/11 occured DURING the yearly general assembly of the Carlyle Group is not a coincidence: that is the very reason of 9/11: Ossama didn’t accepted that his familly deals with Americans, and he wanted the whole world to know about it.

Now Bush tries to get his population to support his mafia. He creates ennemies, connections, WMDs, or whatever can get the support of the population. Everything turns out to be wrong after a while, but now the country is sold to friendly companies and controlled by the US army, so who’s gonna come to complain?

This war is not about values other than the value of money, and not about freedom other than freedom to enslave others for the benefit of Bush’s lignée.

To answer yous last question: “Did George make that one up too? “, the answer is no. His father did by funding the moudjaihdins against the soviets in the 70s and 80s. This is just a familly business.

]]> By: Gary http://jayreding.com/archives/2004/10/11/a-profound-ignorance/comment-page-1/#comment-9361 Gary Wed, 13 Oct 2004 17:02:22 +0000 http://63.247.137.2/~jayredin/?p=3631#comment-9361 Yeh sure why not, Go Big Brother Go! And what is fantomatic anyways? Did George make that one up too? He's on a roll. Yeh sure why not, Go Big Brother Go!
And what is fantomatic anyways? Did George make that one up too? He’s on a roll.

]]> By: vincent http://jayreding.com/archives/2004/10/11/a-profound-ignorance/comment-page-1/#comment-9351 vincent Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:04:08 +0000 http://63.247.137.2/~jayredin/?p=3631#comment-9351 No Gary, Mr Bush just created the perfect plan: fight a fantomatic ennemy! This war will never ends, which means: -more contracts with security agencies -more unmonitored control over the population thanks to laws like the Patriot Act -you can take-over or ban any country of the world community by saying it has ties with terrorism -ensure America's leadership Is this not a great plan? No Gary,
Mr Bush just created the perfect plan: fight a fantomatic ennemy!

This war will never ends, which means:
-more contracts with security agencies
-more unmonitored control over the population thanks to laws like the Patriot Act
-you can take-over or ban any country of the world community by saying it has ties with terrorism
-ensure America’s leadership

Is this not a great plan?

]]> By: Gary http://jayreding.com/archives/2004/10/11/a-profound-ignorance/comment-page-1/#comment-9330 Gary Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:31:03 +0000 http://63.247.137.2/~jayredin/?p=3631#comment-9330 Mr. Reding, President Bush has stated that in order to make America, and the world, a safer place, he will agressively seek out terrorist cells and eliminate such threats. While I admire his ambition, and unyielding sense of mission, I am unnerved by the fact that millions of Americans believe he is doing an effective job. President Bush's uncompromising world views has increased resentment of the Western world among Muslims, and their reasons to take up arms against the West have strengthened under the current Administration. Simply because President Bush says that the "war on terror" is going to be a long, drawn out process, does not mean it must be so. Thus, when Senator Kerry made the above statement, I believe he means to find a resolution as quickly as possible. An effort as demanding, and as global as the "war on terror", cannot be fulfilled by two or three nations alone, stubbornly pouring more resources into an ineffective plan. I would like to hear your opinion. Cheers. Mr. Reding,
President Bush has stated that in order to make America, and the world, a safer place, he will agressively seek out terrorist cells and eliminate such threats. While I admire his ambition, and unyielding sense of mission, I am unnerved by the fact that millions of Americans believe he is doing an effective job. President Bush’s uncompromising world views has increased resentment of the Western world among Muslims, and their reasons to take up arms against the West have strengthened under the current Administration.
Simply because President Bush says that the “war on terror” is going to be a long, drawn out process, does not mean it must be so. Thus, when Senator Kerry made the above statement, I believe he means to find a resolution as quickly as possible. An effort as demanding, and as global as the “war on terror”, cannot be fulfilled by two or three nations alone, stubbornly pouring more resources into an ineffective plan. I would like to hear your opinion. Cheers.

]]> By: The American Mind http://jayreding.com/archives/2004/10/11/a-profound-ignorance/comment-page-1/#comment-9318 The American Mind Tue, 12 Oct 2004 01:15:19 +0000 http://63.247.137.2/~jayredin/?p=3631#comment-9318 <strong>Kerry's House of Ketchup #27</strong> Kerry speaks. It's been a few weeks, but the greatest, most stupendous, most scintillating linkfest devoted to the windsurfing... Kerry’s House of Ketchup #27
Kerry speaks. It’s been a few weeks, but the greatest, most stupendous, most scintillating linkfest devoted to the windsurfing…

]]> By: Jay Reding http://jayreding.com/archives/2004/10/11/a-profound-ignorance/comment-page-1/#comment-9311 Jay Reding Mon, 11 Oct 2004 19:13:02 +0000 http://63.247.137.2/~jayredin/?p=3631#comment-9311 The fact that it's an empty promise, for one. The fact that it’s an empty promise, for one.

]]> By: Mark http://jayreding.com/archives/2004/10/11/a-profound-ignorance/comment-page-1/#comment-9310 Mark Mon, 11 Oct 2004 19:01:46 +0000 http://63.247.137.2/~jayredin/?p=3631#comment-9310 What part of John Kerry's repeated insistences that he will hunt down and kill terrorists is unclear to you? What part of John Kerry’s repeated insistences that he will hunt down and kill terrorists is unclear to you?

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